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Episodes

Dec. 10, 2021

Immigrants as humans not sound bites.

Jen owns the callous and ignorant manner in which she tossed around terms like: immigrant, illegal, refugee, and asylum seeker. Her largely erroneous assertions led to this vital conversation recorded two years ago - pre-pandemic and in a different political climate. We were determined to finally b…
Dec. 1, 2021

Self-love vs. Self-destruction

Invest 90 seconds into feeling something now OR stuff it and foster a lifetime of neuroses- good times! Jen and Kim discuss love of self as a prerequisite to loving others. It's not hippy, self-indulgent, or weird...it's essential. We expand into eating disorders and other process addictions.
Nov. 24, 2021

The episode that became a therapy session...sorta

Jen and Kim flesh out trauma, boundaries, and feelings - plus a whole lot more. Kim is a highly sensitive human (and therapist) who feels everything - while Jen explains living disconnected from her body and soul much of her adult life.
Nov. 18, 2021

Overwhelm meets her problem-solving guru

Jen admits her tendency toward overwhelm and occasional tantrums when "things don't go right" - while Amanda provides methodical, constructive guidance with her #icann method of problem solving. These two couldn't be more different when it comes to life and career choices, but what a conversation!
Nov. 10, 2021

Feminism and the patriarchy? New input for the echo chamber

Jen confesses her ignorance regarding feminism, patriarchy, misogyny and other big words that she pretty much ignored or misjudged. Julie Gohring is a progressive thinker and feminist focused on human rights and equality. A random question about “mansplaining” brought them together and it has led t…
Nov. 3, 2021

Marriage: lifetime covenant OR lease option? (part 2 with Staci Bartley)

Jen embarks on a second episode with her friend and relationship guru, Staci Bartley, to discuss the institution of marriage over history (shocking!) and the origin of the shame and guilt often attributed to the marriage narrative. As you may recall from their first episode, Jen admits her view on …
Oct. 25, 2021

Marriage: lifetime covenant OR lease option?

Jen hosts friend and relationship guru, Staci Bartley, to discuss marriage and a whole new perspective on long term happiness. Both women talk candidly about their own marriages (past and present) and the idea that a successful marriage is not limited to the one model that Jen held dear for the pas…
Aug. 20, 2021

Why Listen for REAL?

Jen talks candidly about why she created this podcast; from the embarrassing truth of being called out on social media to recognizing and owning her own limited viewpoints.